Hi2u schrieb:
Was welche Theorie? Wer ist R und wer ist J????
Rhaegar + Lyanna = jon Snow
Das ist eine weitverbreitete Theorie, die durch sehr viele Textpassagen unterstützt wird.
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Hi2u schrieb:
Was welche Theorie? Wer ist R und wer ist J????
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Hi2u schrieb:
Oh man, erklärs mal in einfachen Worten, keine Lust auf so 'ne Textwall grade, für mich in Jon eindeutig der Sohn von Eddard und irgendsoeiner Tusse von den Sisters(?), also der Insel, wo Davos auch strandete.
Of the three options mentioned above, it is widely held that Rhaegar and Lyanna are by far the likeliest. Besides the evidence above regarding the timeline, the fact that Lyanna would provide Jon the necessary genetics to come out with the Stark look, and the obvious reasons for why Eddard would claim Jon as being his own blood on such an occasion, there is some other speculative evidence in support of it. One piece of possible evidence that has had a strong impression is Daenerys’s vision of a blue rose growing in the side of the wall (II: 515-516). As noted in the Prophecies section, this single reference appears to draw a direct connection between the story of Bael the Bard and the winter rose (in which a Stark daughter is stolen from the family, only to give the House a son by her lover), Lyanna Stark (who is associated with the blue winter roses and with Rhaegar), and Jon Snow (who is on the Wall). While it may simply be hinting at Jon’s presence on the Wall, given the significance of the blue rose that we learn of in A Clash of Kings, we find it a promising piece of evidence.
There’s also the cause of Lyanna’s death. The smell of blood and the fever that Ned recalls (I: 35-36) can certainly be read as the aftermath of childbirth and ensuing fatal illness. This is certainly suggestive that Lyanna could have had a child. It has been proposed that Lyanna was actually killed by one of the Kingsguard, or perhaps even by her own hand, but both seem to speak against the fever Ned remembers and the former, at least, seems sharply at odds of Eddard’s continuing admiration of Aerys’s Kingsguard.
Finally, there are other small hints which are certainly open to interpretation but which all share plausible interpretations pointing to Jon’s parents being Rhaegar and Lyanna, such as the juxtaposition of Lyanna’s pleading with Sansa’s in relation to the way Robert Baratheon responded to the deaths of the Targaryen children (I: 67), the presence of the Kingsguard which suggests they could have been protecting a possible heir to the throne (I: 354-355), Ned not listing Jon Snow among his children when thinking of what he would do to defend them (I: 406), and the fact that the Targaryens practiced bigamy which strengthens the possibility that a child by Rhaegar and Lyanna would be a legitimate heir to the throne (SSM). No other combination of persons really has the density of circumstantial evidence pointing towards it. While alone no single piece can provide a certain answer, the weight of them does make it seem very plausible.
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Hi2u schrieb:
Hmm, kein Plan, hört sich immernoch alles seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehr weit hergeholt aus...Aber bei Martin darf man gespannt sein
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There’s also the cause of Lyanna’s death. The smell of blood and the fever that Ned recalls (I: 35-36) can certainly be read as the aftermath of childbirth and ensuing fatal illness. This is certainly suggestive that Lyanna could have had a child. It has been proposed that Lyanna was actually killed by one of the Kingsguard, or perhaps even by her own hand, but both seem to speak against the fever Ned remembers and the former, at least, seems sharply at odds of Eddard’s continuing admiration of Aerys’s Kingsguard.
Hi2u schrieb:
Also das Renly schwul ist, hab selbst ich gecheckt, aber wohl nur, weil ich alles auch nochmal auf Deutsch gelesen hab
Wann sollte aber Lyanna denn schwanger gewesen sein? Und unbemerkt ein Kind zu Welt bringen? Und wie soll das Kind zu Ned kommen? Und würde er sich mit so einer großen "Schande" belasten, seine Frau zu betrügen? Denke, da hätte er sich was anderes ausgedacht.
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LuckstYle schrieb:
also würde george r. r. martin den einfach sterben lassen...
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