Na'Vi - Diskussionsthread. UPDATE: NaVi goes China.

nur das diejenigen die sich zu so einer dsds casting kacke herablassen nicht die spieler sind die auf dem niveau spielen können.

Ja man und du kannst anfangen Bruder

Was er für die dt szene war und ist ist mir klar, deswegen tut mir der verlust ja so extrem weh. Unterm strich mangelt es mir an genügsamkeit, das zog sich in den letzten jahren und vorallem letzen monaten durch alle meine beiträge, ich will immer mehr für die dota szene. In bezug auf kuro hast du aber recht, er hat bereits unedlich viel für die dt dota szene geleistet, man(sry zuviel politiker reden geguckt) ich kann nicht mehr erwarten, tuhe ich ab jetzt auch nicht mehr. Danke und gl kuro.

So beeindruckend, Alex' und Kuros Posts. Mir fällt immer mehr auf wie ich an der Gamingszene hänge, kann mich noch erinnern wie wir vor 7 Jahren oder so Archery Tactics gespielt haben, wo man wie mit dem alten Puck die Arrows autododgen konnte, Kuro immer meinte "lasst das sonst werdet ihr nie besser, autocast for noobs", wir natürlich alle immer noch AC damit wir EINMAL kuro ownen konnte und er hat uns ALLE gemacht

wünsch euch ganz viel glück, vielleicht seht ihr euch ja bei ti3 im finale wieder, wer weiß?

justinSANE schrieb:

Alex- wird gänsehaut bekommen wenn er sich einloggt und fucking 120+ supportive ds.de likes auf seinen beitrag sieht

Wenn er uns ne Gänsehaut verpasst, warum wir dann nicht auch ihm
Er hat es verdient

altenteil nennt man den ort wo unterbezahlte mitte 30iger sich für hungerlöhne für menschen die nur noch in foren lesen aber nichts mehr schreiben krummschuften und den hintern abputzen müssen, ein ort des allgemeinen deregenaritiven entsetzens an dem tiere an fast verwesende lebendige ausgeliefert werden damit diese ihre "sozialen kompetenz" nicht verlieren, dabei werden todesopfer wie von rollstühlen überfahrene katzen gerne in kauf genommen... ich führ das fort, bin nur gerade ingame

Zerogravity wünscht den Alex post übersetzt

First of all, I recommend to read this rather old blog entry:
gosugamers.net/dota/blogs/3094
Kuroky is what the german Dota scene is about. He and nobody else.
Without him, mouz.dota2 as we know it would not even exist in his current form with German players and especially as a top 6/7 team in Europe. Never before in DotA history has a German team been able to accomplish that much – a quite embarrassing fact regarding the player count in Germany.
Without Kuro, guys like pas, Fata or me would not even play this game competitively, let alone on this level which made us win against every European/American top team in a BO3 at least once.
He all by himself caused the reaction and fanboism in this forum and you still have the audacity to call him arrogant and short-sighted because he has left mouz now for Na’Vi? Read this blog again!
This little Iranian has dreams and ambitions for his Dotacareer on an incredibly high level. He wants to be on top, he wants to own the whole world in Dota. AND he is by far the most talented and smartest player our country can offer.
Of course I was sad in the beginning when he told us Na’Vi made an offer (not for the first time!) and that he was thinking about accepting it this time. I was thinking: “F***, what is to become of the team? Do we have what it takes to carry on since Kuro is irreplaceable in the Western scene except for maybe Puppey.
But right now, the gratitude prevails. He brought us to the point where we have the chance to live our dreams: To have a competent sponsor, to be Top 6 in Europe and to be paid for the game we love so much.
It is not Kuroky’s fault he’s leaving now, not at all. Nobody is entitled to accuse him of living his dream. With this Na’Vi lineup he has a higher chance of winning the International as he would have with mouz, which is completely impartial. There is nobody In Europe and America who can top Funn1k, Kuro and Puppey on the positions 3 to 5. Maybe Dendi is not exactly on the same level, but he still has an insane amount of experience and skill, has faced the world’s best midplayers and won, owned IG and LGD with Rubick. Hvost may be the weakest link in relation to the others, but that does not count at all and he is still playing well enough. Oh, I should mention on a side note that Na’Vi is paying around three or five times the salary, which is important as you have to live to play Dota professionally.
"It’s in the darkest times, we find ourselves growing"

Habe mal angefangen zu übersetzen, hoffe das wäre okay und irgendwer kanns mal überfliegen, Rest folgt nachher.

Vielleicht alex- vorher mal fragen ob man es so an die große Glocke hängen soll ?

Als ob er nicht wusste, dass das passieren wird. Passiert doch ständig, dass Quotes von Kuro oder anderen hier aus dem Forum übersetzt und irgendwo gepostet werden. Das wissen die Spieler, keine Sorge

Wär sicherlich gut, das zu übersetzen. Ich hoffe nur, das diese attentionwhore (zerogravity) damit noch mehr gepusht wird.

Eazy ツ schrieb:

was ist eigentlich mit fire los? wo spielt der gerade, wenn er überhaupt spielt

fire meines wissens nacht atm clanless und selbst wenn nicht, mouz ist ja in EU auch inzw ne hausnummer und nichtmehr "noch ein german stack"... habt ja vor paar seiten schon gepostet dass ich der Meinung bin das jmd wie fire halt auch spielerisch ziemlich gut reinpassen würde da er den (mMn!) besten 2nd support deutschlands spielt und generell n guter alrounder ist(könnte zb so heros wie sylla zocken, glaub paS ist nicht son freund von dem held - so sieht es jedenfalls in den meisten officials aus)...

Naja, mouz wird schon wissen was sie tun und ich denke sie werden sich jetzt eh erstmal den kopf zerbrechen wen sie ausprobieren.

Oh Mann!
Das ist mal ein Post Alex! Richtig, richtig schön sowas von einem deutschen Dotapro zu hören. Wenn alle so eine Einstellung hätten, dann würde es die deutsche Dotaszene viel weiter in den competitive Bereich schaffen!
Macht dich nach dem Spiel, wo du mit meinem Noobstack untergegangen bist noch sympathischer!

Dexter- schrieb:

altenteil nennt man den ort wo unterbezahlte mitte 30iger sich für hungerlöhne für menschen die nur noch in foren lesen aber nichts mehr schreiben krummschuften und den hintern abputzen müssen, ein ort des allgemeinen deregenaritiven entsetzens an dem tiere an fast verwesende lebendige ausgeliefert werden damit diese ihre "sozialen kompetenz" nicht verlieren, dabei werden todesopfer wie von rollstühlen überfahrene katzen gerne in kauf genommen... ich führ das fort, bin nur gerade ingame

Lol, an dir ist ja ein Poet verlorengegangen.

Zur Zeit sind neben Ihnen 252 Benutzer in diesem Thema unterwegs:
42 Mitglieder (davon 4 unsichtbar) und 210 Besucher


braucht hier jetzt noch jemand eine übersetzung des alten blog eintrags ins deutsche oder alex ins englische?

Done ~ tmeh, 30min zu spät :-Drezco did 1st part (look above) (stolen by me now :-P)

First of all, I recommend to read this rather old blog entry:
gosugamers.net/dota/blogs/3094
Kuroky is what the german Dota scene is about. He and nobody else.
Without him, mouz.dota2 as we know it would not even exist in his current form with German players and especially as a top 6/7 team in Europe. Never before in DotA history has a German team been able to accomplish that much – a quite embarrassing fact regarding the player count in Germany.
Without Kuro, guys like pas, Fata or me would not even play this game competitively, let alone on this level which made us win against every European/American top team in a BO3 at least once.
He all by himself caused the reaction and fanboism in this forum and you still have the audacity to call him arrogant and short-sighted because he has left mouz now for Na’Vi? Read this blog again!
This little Iranian has dreams and ambitions for his Dotacareer on an incredibly high level. He wants to be on top, he wants to own the whole world in Dota. AND he is by far the most talented and smartest player our country can offer.
Of course I was sad in the beginning when he told us Na’Vi made an offer (not for the first time!) and that he was thinking about accepting it this time. I was thinking: “F***, what is to become of the team? Do we have what it takes to carry on since Kuro is irreplaceable in the Western scene except for maybe Puppey.
But right now, the gratitude prevails. He brought us to the point where we have the chance to live our dreams: To have a competent sponsor, to be Top 6 in Europe and to be paid for the game we love so much.
It is not Kuroky’s fault he’s leaving now, not at all. Nobody is entitled to accuse him of living his dream. With this Na’Vi lineup he has a higher chance of winning the International as he would have with mouz, which is completely impartial. There is nobody In Europe and America who can top Funn1k, Kuro and Puppey on the positions 3 to 5. Maybe Dendi is not exactly on the same level, but he still has an insane amount of experience and skill, has faced the world’s best midplayers and won, owned IG and LGD with Rubick. Hvost may be the weakest link in relation to the others, but that does not count at all and he is still playing well enough. Oh, I should mention on a side note that Na’Vi is paying around three or five times the salary, which is important as you have to live to play Dota professionally.

"Its in the darkest times, we find ourselves growing"

Now we (the remaining players) have to decide what we do with the heritage that was given to us. We could all put our heads into the sand, because of the obvious truth, that kuroky is irreplaceable, or we can finally start to make something out of ourselves and do our fucking best, to get as good as possible. I know, that kuro would be proud of the team, if everyone pulls himself together and fights.
Kuro taught us so many things about dota, teamspirit and socailly, that i see myself in duty to continue on. I owe it to him, because he got me to mouz, even though public everyone was against it, because he trusted me (i remember, how everyone on dotasource was of the opinion that i play too bad for that and that kuro should have gotten somebody else) and i owe it to myself, because i want to proove, that i german team can have success even without kuro.
Previously i read the old blogentry of kuroky and in parts of it, i found myself. Now it is just us, that have to do it, wether we trust ourselves and believe that we can do it and that we have the motivation and discipline, to do what is necessary aka hard training, motivating each other, because the start will very likely be extremely hard, because fata and/or me have to switch from "listen to kuro and for the rest just play well" to "make your own decisions, what has to be done".
But fuck, i got so damn much desire and will to get this done and i hope so much, that my teammates (also the new one) will pull through with us, so we can all continue to live our dream. To preserve what we achieved. To make kuros achieved work not be in vain. So we wont disappoint you on dotasource. To Top what we achieved now. To get to the International and not to leave with 0:4 like TI1.
I just dont want to yield and again play with some random teams at the 4pl cup and play the defense qualifier. And i dont want to be again part of the german dota szene, that throws those chances away, because of slothness, sloppyness or social incompetence and because of that stayed for 6 years in the competitive dota szene meaningless.


I just dont know, why the only successful german dotaentitys are kuro and hanni.
But when i see, that a slightly fatter/popular (dunno if typo or seriously :-D) german player in the TI2 lowerbrocket in a bo1 aka win or die seriously without keyboard plays, using his other hand to drill in his nose, beacuse he has no desire to play with his team and doesnt want to win anymore.
Than i think, that this person with this horrible attitude actually achieved even more, because he managed to get up to this point, than i start to think, what a pittyful display that is for the german szene and that i please please want to be better than something like this. (sorry for grammar, trying to stay as close to the original as possible)

"I know that what's in front of me is a reflection of what is inside of me"

But, in which way the future should develop, i decided not to surrender and stop, just because it got harder, id rather concentrate my will and inspiration onto the tasks that are ahead of me.
And that is getting better myself, to finally get top mechanics down properly and to drag my teammates with me and to hope, that they share the same goals like me. Maybe we will fail and loose, but atleast i want to have tried it with all i got and if i fail then, i will rise again and again and i will strive on to win, because i want to play dota at the moment.
Because i dont want to have to see a german team in some years, that was able to achieve what i tried to achieve, because i didnt give it my all and rather put my head into the sand, instead of continuing. I dont want to be the guy, that sits in TS and just shortly before the game joins the channel and wishes good luck and than returns to 2 channels higher up and trashtalks about us there and wishes us with every fiber of his body, that we should loose the game. (hi, kev-, i know very well that you are doing that)

Otherwise here just remains a small tldr version:
Daarkside, you were wrong. Kuro, i thank you for everything that you have done for us and i hope with all my heart, that you have success and that we see each other at the International and if you win, ill be the first one to congratulate. Someday will come, when we will be together a team and i will be greater and better, than i am now.
Dotasource I thank you all for the commentating, for the little hype, for your fanboyism, for every partying when we owned and every grumpyness, when we failed. After almost every game i read the comments here and i am just enthuasiastic, how many are here and how big this all has gotten.

Cheer with us, if you like to - cheer for kuro, if u read this far you know why he deserves that, i will do my very best, so i wont disappoint you even though the start will be hard, it is awesome and inspiring to know that this forum exists and that people exist, that feel with you if you win or loose.

Thank you for everything in the name of the entire Team. Its the Best forum EU, maybe even worldwide

Alex[GP] srsly going pro

Ich muss mich jetzt mal kurz selbst zitieren, einfach den kompletten Durchblick gehabt. Ich biete Zukunftsvorhersagen im TS an. Nennt mir eure IP und ich sage euch wie es in Job, Liebe und am wichtigsten Doto weiter geht.

Osterweiterung schrieb:

rmN- wird sich einspielen und wenn alles schön reibungslos geht übernimmt Alex- die Captainrolle und Kuro spielt wieder mit Puppy. Heard it here first.