Na'Vi - Diskussionsthread. UPDATE: NaVi goes China.

    • Glaube nicht dass es rmN wird.
      'Maturity,' father had slowly begun,'
      Is knowing you're wrong and accepting it, son.
      There's prudence in pausing with patience and joy -
      And hearing the wisdom in others, my boy.
      'A person's perspective,' he said with a smile,
      'Is plain if you walk in their shoes for a while.             		And if you can do it - if maybe you do -
      You might understand, and agree that it's true.'
      I followed his reasons, and nodded, polite;
      Perhaps that was logic - perhaps he was right.
      Perhaps there was truth in his claim all along...
      'I'm twenty,' I countered: 'I'm right, and you're wrong.'

    • Kuro zu Na'Vi sag ich seit nem Jahr :thumbsup:
      [spoil=Gyros wird die Weltherrschaft an sich reißen]Kebap-: Jimaras
      Kebap-: im gosugamers forum steht
      Kebap-: gyro as support
      Kebap-: und wegen dir bastard
      Kebap-: les ich halt
      Kebap-: gyros als support
      [/spoil][spoil=Amoment und seine letzte Klausur]Amoment: ich habe gestern letzte 2-stündige arbeit meines lebens geschrieben
      Amoment: und was war es?
      Amoment: na???
      Amoment: na???
      Amoment: GESCHICHTE
      Amoment: ÜBER JUDEN
      Amoment: Ich habe schön viel das wort finanzjudentum eingebracht
      [/spoil]

    • Habs mal versucht zu übersetzen, könnt ihr ja gerne noch verbessern...



      Daarkside flaming about kuroky going to navi, because kuroky was complaining about the small german dota scene and now leaves it


      im writing a bit more about the whole situation, so that this post isnt just stupid (but reasonable) flame.

      At first id suggest to read this old post:
      gosugamers.net/dota/blogs/3094

      Kuroky is the german dota scene. Him and no one else. Without him, there wouldnt be a mousesports with german players (let alone a mousesports which made it to the top 6/7 in europe, which no other german team managed to do yet, which is pretty pathetic, considering how many germans play this game.)
      Without Kuroky, people like pas, fata or me wouldnt play competitive dota at all, especially not on a level where you have already beaten ever european/american top team in a bo3.
      He is the reason why there are mouz fanboys in this forum (dotasource.de) and you are really saying that hes arrogant and short sighted because he's leaving mouz and going to navi?
      Please, read the blog entry I posted above.

      The little iranian (kuro) has dreams and very high ambitions in dota. He wants to be the best and own everyone. And he is the most talented and smartest player this country has to offer. Sure, I was sad at first, when he told us that navi made an offer (not the first time!) and he wants to accept it this time.
      I thought fuck, whats happening with our team now, can we take this? Kuro cant be replaced in western dota; if someone could, it would be puppey.
      But now it's much more the gratefulness for taking us so far and for giving us the opportunity to live our dream.
      -> having a good sponsor, being in the top 6 eu and getting paid for the game we love so much. It's not his fault for leaving now, no one has the right to blame him for living his dream.
      With this navi lineup he has better chances to win the international, than with the mouz team. In Europe there is no one who could play position 3-5 better, than funn1k, kuro and puppey.
      Dendi isn't at their level all the time, but he has incredible much experience and skill, also he has already played against the best mid players worldwide and owned them. Owned ig and lgd with rubick.
      XBOCT is the worst of them, but that doesnt really matter, he's still really good. Ah, just to mention it: navi pays about 3-5 times more money and you need money for living and playing dota.

      "Its in the darkest times, we find ourselves growing"

      Now its up to us (the rest of mouz), what we want to do with this legacy. We could bury our heads in the sand, because of the truth, that no one can replace kuroky, or we could start to make the best out of it and give the best we can, to become as good as possible.
      I know it would make Kuroky proud, if we would stay together and fight. Kuroky taught us so much about dota, teamspirit and personal stuff, I now take it as my duty to continue.
      I owe him, because he was the one bringing me to mouz, despite the public opinion, because he trusted me. (I can remember, when nearly everyone on dotasource said, i'd be to bad and they should have gotten an other player) and I owe myself, because I want to prove, that a german team can have success without kuroky.
      A few moments ago I read the old post from kuroky (above) and found myself there. Its up to us, if we trust ourselfs and believe, that we can do it and have the motivation and discipline to do the necessary, aka hard training and push each other, because in the beginning its gonna be pretty hard, because fata and i have to switch from "listen to kuro and play well" to "decide yourself when what has to be done".
      But fuck yes, I really want to carry it off and I really hope, that my teammates (also the new one(s)) want to do this aswell, so we can continue living our dream. To keep what's already accomplished. So that Kurokys work wasn't for nothing. So you (dotasource) wont get disappointed.
      So we can actually do even better, than what we already managed to do. To get to the international and don't play like ggnet at ti1 0:4. I just don't want to give up and play with random teams at 4pl cup or the defense qualification.
      And I dont want to be in the part of the german scene which is throwing this chances away and out of laziness, stupidity or social incompetence managing it for over 6 years now to be really meaningless in competitive dota.

      I dont really know, why the only successfull german players are Kuroky and hanni.
      But when i see a fat german player on the ti2 in the lowerbracket in a bo1, aka win or die, playing with a mouse only (and picking his nose with the other hand), because he doesn't like his team and doesn't want to win anymore, I'm thinking that this person with this stupid attitude still managed to get there is a confession of failure for the german dota scene and I really want to be better than this.

      "I know that what's in front of me is a reflection of what is inside of me"

      But however the future turns out, I decided not to give up, just because its harder now. Instead I'm focusing on the way that's ahead of us.
      That means getting better myself, to get top mechanics and drag along my teammates and hope they are sharing my dreams.
      Maybe we will fail and lose, but I want to try with everything weve got at least, and if I really fail I will stand up again and try again, because at the moment I want to play dota. Because I don't want to see a german team in a few years, which managed to be successfull, because I didn't really try and was being a coward, instead of continuing. I don't want to be the guy whos sitting in teamspeak and wishing good luck to this team, just to talk behind their backs about them and want them to lose (hi kev-).

      So, here's the tl;dr version: Daarkside you were wrong. Kuroky, thanks for everything you have done for us, i hope with all my heart that you are successfull and we'll see us at the international. And if you win, I will be the first to congratulate you. At some point, we will be together again in a team and I will be bigger and better, than I am now.
      Dotasource, thanks for all the comments, for the small hype, your fanboyism and for every celebrating when we owned, and everytime being mad at us when we failed. I am reading the comments here after most of our games and im overwhelmed, how many there are and how big this whole thing got. Keep cheering for us, if you want to - cheer for kuroky, the text above explains why he has earned that. I will give my best to not disappoint you, even if the start is going to be hard, it's great and inspiring to know, that this forum exists and that there are people who feel with you when you win or lose. Thanks for all this from the whole team. Best forum eu, maybe even worldwide.

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    • justinSANE schrieb:

      Alex- wird gänsehaut bekommen wenn er sich einloggt und fucking 120+ supportive ds.de <3 likes auf seinen beitrag sieht
      oder genervt :D der muss das mindestens 6 mal wegklicken weil maximal 20 upvotes gezeigt werden. Aber Alex im competitive ist halt immer schön, der ist mit rmn halt am aktivsten im forum wenn sie competitive spielen (bzw. gespielt haben früher). immer schön was aus deren perspektive zu hören :]
      Nice Meme

    • DEUTSCHES DOTA 2 ANTITROLL MODUS ON MOUZ

      Die Navi-kuro news werfen für jeden deutschen dota 2 Spieler viele fragen zu mouz auf und Alex- beantwortet alle in einem wunderschönen Post.
      Denn egal welches Team man "supported" in der Welt. Letzendlich hab ich das Gefühl, das jeder in sich hofft, auch mal wieder ein Team aus dem eigenen Land zu supporten, da man viel mehr Bezug zu den Spielern aufbauen kann.
      Am Endedes posts merkt mana auch, wie emotional dieses Ereignis Alex berührt. VOLL SÜß!!!
      Danke für diesen aufklärenden Post. Sollte auch auf anderen websides/Portalen stehen. War kurz schwer zu finden

      UND:

      Alex- schrieb:

      Ich will nicht der typ sein, der dann im ts hockt und kurz vor einem
      spiel den channel joint und "good luck" wünscht und dann zwei channels
      weiter oben über uns abzulästern und mit jeder faser seines körpers
      wünscht, dass wir verlieren (hi kev-, ja ich weiß, dass du das tust).
      Die Anmerkung in den Klammern finde ich moralisch nicht nicht vertretbar (Die doppelte Verneinung ist Absicht) :D
      Muss man ja auch nicht glauben (Aber ich tue es)

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      Preparation - Anticipation - Communication - Execution

    • lish schrieb:

      Habs mal versucht zu übersetzen, könnt ihr ja gerne noch verbessern...


      Spoiler anzeigen

      Daarkside flaming about kuroky going to navi, because kuroky was complaining about the small german dota scene and now leaves it


      im writing a bit more about the whole situation, so that this post isnt just stupid (but reasonable) flame.

      At first id suggest to read this old post:
      gosugamers.net/dota/blogs/3094

      Kuroky is the german dota scene. Him and no one else. Without him, there wouldnt be a mousesports with german players (let alone a mousesports which made it to the top 6/7 in europe, which no other german team managed to do yet, which is pretty pathetic, considering how many germans play this game.)
      Without Kuroky, people like pas, fata or me wouldnt play competitive dota at all, especially not on a level where you have already beaten ever european/american top team in a bo3.
      He is the reason why there are mouz fanboys in this forum (dotasource.de) and you are really saying that hes arrogant and short sighted because he's leaving mouz and going to navi?
      Please, read the blog entry I posted above.

      The little iranian (kuro) has dreams and very high ambitions in dota. He wants to be the best and own everyone. And he is the most talented and smartest player this country has to offer. Sure, I was sad at first, when he told us that navi made an offer (not the first time!) and he wants to accept it this time.
      I thought fuck, whats happening with our team now, can we take this? Kuro cant be replaced in western dota; if someone could, it would be puppey.
      But now it's much more the gratefulness for taking us so far and for giving us the opportunity to live our dream.
      -> having a good sponsor, being in the top 6 eu and getting paid for the game we love so much. It's not his fault for leaving now, no one has the right to blame him for living his dream.
      With this navi lineup he has better chances to win the international, than with the mouz team. In Europe there is no one who could play position 3-5 better, than funn1k, kuro and puppey.
      Dendi isn't at their level all the time, but he has incredible much experience and skill, also he has already played against the best mid players worldwide and owned them. Owned ig and lgd with rubick.
      XBOCT is the worst of them, but that doesnt really matter, he's still really good. Ah, just to mention it: navi pays about 3-5 times more money and you need money for living and playing dota.

      "Its in the darkest times, we find ourselves growing"

      Now its up to us (the rest of mouz), what we want to do with this legacy. We could bury our heads in the sand, because of the truth, that no one can replace kuroky, or we could start to make the best out of it and give the best we can, to become as good as possible.
      I know it would make Kuroky proud, if we would stay together and fight. Kuroky taught us so much about dota, teamspirit and personal stuff, I now take it as my duty to continue.
      I owe him, because he was the one bringing me to mouz, despite the public opinion, because he trusted me. (I can remember, when nearly everyone on dotasource said, i'd be to bad and they should have gotten an other player) and I owe myself, because I want to prove, that a german team can have success without kuroky.
      A few moments ago I read the old post from kuroky (above) and found myself there. Its up to us, if we trust ourselfs and believe, that we can do it and have the motivation and discipline to do the necessary, aka hard training and push each other, because in the beginning its gonna be pretty hard, because fata and i have to switch from "listen to kuro and play well" to "decide yourself when what has to be done".
      But fuck yes, I really want to carry it off and I really hope, that my teammates (also the new one(s)) want to do this aswell, so we can continue living our dream. To keep what's already accomplished. So that Kurokys work wasn't for nothing. So you (dotasource) wont get disappointed.
      So we can actually do even better, than what we already managed to do. To get to the international and don't play like ggnet at ti1 0:4. I just don't want to give up and play with random teams at 4pl cup or the defense qualification.
      And I dont want to be in the part of the german scene which is throwing this chances away and out of laziness, stupidity or social incompetence managing it for over 6 years now to be really meaningless in competitive dota.

      I dont really know, why the only successfull german players are Kuroky and hanni.
      But when i see a fat german player on the ti2 in the lowerbracket in a bo1, aka win or die, playing with a mouse only (and picking his nose with the other hand), because he doesn't like his team and doesn't want to win anymore, I'm thinking that this person with this stupid attitude still managed to get there is a confession of failure for the german dota scene and I really want to be better than this.

      "I know that what's in front of me is a reflection of what is inside of me"

      But however the future turns out, I decided not to give up, just because its harder now. Instead I'm focusing on the way that's ahead of us.
      That means getting better myself, to get top mechanics and drag along my teammates and hope they are sharing my dreams.
      Maybe we will fail and lose, but I want to try with everything weve got at least, and if I really fail I will stand up again and try again, because at the moment I want to play dota. Because I don't want to see a german team in a few years, which managed to be successfull, because I didn't really try and was being a coward, instead of continuing. I don't want to be the guy whos sitting in teamspeak and wishing good luck to this team, just to talk behind their backs about them and want them to lose (hi kev-).

      So, here's the tl;dr version: Daarkside you were wrong. Kuroky, thanks for everything you have done for us, i hope with all my heart that you are successfull and we'll see us at the international. And if you win, I will be the first to congratulate you. At some point, we will be together again in a team and I will be bigger and better, than I am now.
      Dotasource, thanks for all the comments, for the small hype, your fanboyism and for every celebrating when we owned, and everytime being mad at us when we failed. I am reading the comments here after most of our games and im overwhelmed, how many there are and how big this whole thing got. Keep cheering for us, if you want to - cheer for kuroky, the text above explains why he has earned that. I will give my best to not disappoint you, even if the start is going to be hard, it's great and inspiring to know, that this forum exists and that there are people who feel with you when you win or lose. Thanks for all this from the whole team. Best forum eu, maybe even worldwide.
      Spoiler anzeigen


      Darf ich die Übersetzung hier reinposten:
      reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/19…_on_kuroky_going_to_navi/
      Dieser Beitrag wurde bezahlt vom George Soros Zentrum für politische Agitation

    • War gut übersetzt, ich hab vor allem die "im", "its" und "weve" halt angepasst. Hab recht bald aufgehört es farbig zu markieren. Bis auf den Satz mit der deutschen Dotaszene die auf Faulheit bedeutungslos bleibt hab ich nichts geändern. Erwähnten hab ich umgestellt, damits klarer wird.

      Spoiler anzeigen
      I'm writing a bit more about the whole situation, so that this post isn't just stupid (but reasonable) flame.

      At first I'd suggest to read this old post:
      gosugamers.net/dota/blogs/3094

      Kuroky is the german dota scene. Him and no one else. Without him, there wouldn't be a mousesports with german players (let alone a mousesports which made it to the top 6/7 in europe, which no other german team managed to do yet, which is pretty pathetic considering how many germans play this game.)
      Without Kuroky, people like pas, fata or me wouldn't play competitive Dota at all, especially not on a level where you have already beaten every european/american top team in a bo3.
      He is the reason why there are mouz fanboys in this forum (dotasource.de) and you are really saying that hes arrogant and short sighted because he's leaving mouz and going to navi?
      Please, read the blog entry I posted above.

      The little iranian (kuro) has dreams and very high ambitions in Dota. He wants to be the best and own everyone. And he is the most talented and smartest player this country has to offer. Sure, I was sad at first when he told us that Na`Vi made an offer (not the first time!) and he wants to accept it this time.
      I thought: Fuck, whats happening with our team now, can we take this? Kuro can't be replaced in western Dota; if someone could, it would be puppey.
      But now it's much more the gratefulness for taking us so far and for giving us the opportunity to live our dream.
      -> having a good sponsor, being in the top 6 eu and getting paid for the game we love so much. It's not his fault for leaving now, no one has the right to blame him for living his dream.
      With this Na`Vi lineup he has better chances to win The International, than with the mouz team. In Europe there is no one who could play position 3-5 better, than funn1k, kuro and puppey.
      Dendi isn't at their level all the time, but he has incredible lots of experience and skill, also he has already played against the best mid players worldwide and owned them. Owned ig and lgd with rubick.
      XBOCT is the worst of them, but that doesn't really matter, he's still really good. Ah, just to mention it: Na`Vi pays about 3-5 times more money and you need money for living and playing Dota.

      "It's in the darkest times, we find ourselves growing"

      Now it's up to us (the rest of mouz), what we want to do with this legacy. We could bury our heads in the sand, because of the truth, that no one can replace kuroky, or we could start to make the best out of it and give the best we can, to become as good as possible.
      I know it would make Kuroky proud, if we would stay together and fight. Kuroky taught us so much about Dota, teamspirit and personal stuff. I now take it as my duty to continue.
      I owe him, because he was the one bringing me to mouz, despite the public opinion, because he trusted me. (I can remember, when nearly everyone on dotasource said, I'd be to bad and they should have gotten an other player) and I owe myself, because I want to prove, that a german team can have success without kuroky.
      A few moments ago I read the old post from kuroky (above) and found myself there. It's up to us, if we trust ourselfs and believe, that we can do it and have the motivation and discipline to do the necessary, aka hard training and push each other, because in the beginning its gonna be pretty hard, because fata and i have to switch from "listen to kuro and play well" to "decide yourself when what has to be done".
      But fuck yes, I really want to carry it off and I really hope, that my teammates (also the new one(s)) want to do this as well, so we can continue living our dream. To keep what's already accomplished. So that Kurokys work wasn't for nothing. So you (dotasource) will not get disappointed.
      So we can actually do even better, than what we already managed to do. To get to the international and don't play like ggnet at TI 1 0:4. I just don't want to give up and play with random teams at 4pl cup or The Defense qualification.
      And I dont want to be in the part of that german scene which is throwing its chances away and manages out of laziness, stupidity or social incompetence to be really meaningsless in competitive dota for 6 years now.

      I dont really know, why the only successfull german players are Kuroky and hanni.
      But when I see a fat german player on the TI2 in the lowerbracket in a bo1, aka win or die, playing with mouse only (and picking his nose with the other hand), because he doesn't like his team and doesn't want to win anymore, I'm thinking that this person with this stupid attitude still managed to get there is a confession of failure for the german dota scene and I really want to be better than this.

      "I know that what's in front of me is a reflection of what is inside of me"

      But however the future turns out, I decided not to give up, just because its harder now. Instead I'm focusing on the way that's ahead of us.
      That means getting better myself, to get top mechanics and drag along my teammates and hope they are sharing my dreams.
      Maybe we will fail and lose, but I want to try with everything we've got at least, and if I really fail I will stand up again and try again, because at the moment I want to play Dota. Because I don't want to see a german team in a few years, which managed to be successfull, because I didn't really try and was being a coward, instead of continuing. I don't want to be the guy who is sitting in teamspeak and wishing good luck to this team, just to talk behind their backs about them and want them to lose (hi kev-).

      So, here's the tl;dr version: Daarkside, you were wrong. Kuroky, thanks for everything you have done for us, I hope with all my heart that you are successfull and we'll see us at the international. And if you win, I will be the first to congratulate you. At some point, we will be together again in a team and I will be bigger and better, than I am now.
      Dotasource, thanks for all the comments, for the small hype, your fanboyism and for every celebrating when we owned, and everytime being mad at us when we failed. I am reading the comments here after most of our games and I'm overwhelmed, how many there are and how big this whole thing got. Keep cheering for us, if you want to - cheer for kuroky, the text above explains why he has earned it. I will give my best to not disappoint you, even if the start is going to be hard, it's great and inspiring to know, that this forum exists and that there are people who feel with you when you win or lose. Thanks for all this from the whole team. Best forum eu, maybe even worldwide.

      Dieser Beitrag wurde bereits 1 mal editiert, zuletzt von Zagdil ()

      The verdict is not the end
      It is only the beginning
      Strong will shall keep spreading

    • Spoiler anzeigen
      Daarkside flaming about kuroky going to navi, because kuroky was complaining about the small german dota scene and now leaves it


      im writing a bit more about the whole situation, so that this post isnt just stupid (but reasonable) flame.

      At first I would suggest to read this old post:
      gosugamers.net/dota/blogs/3094

      Kuroky is the german dota scene. Him and no one else. Without him there wouldnt be a mousesports with german players (let alone a mousesports which made it to the top 6/7 in europe, which no other german team managed to do yet, which is pretty pathetic, considering how many germans play this game).
      Without Kuroky people like pas, fata or me wouldnt play competitive dota at all, especially not on a level where you have already beaten every european/american top team in a bo3.
      He is the reason why there are mouz fanboys in this forum (dotasource.de) and you are really saying that hes arrogant and short sighted because he's leaving mouz and going to navi?
      Please, read the blog entry I posted above.

      The little iranian (kuro) has dreams and very high ambitions in dota. He wants to be the best and own everyone. And he is the most talented and smartest player this country has to offer. Sure, I was sad at first, when he told us that navi made an offer (not the first time!) and he wants to accept it this time.
      I thought fuck, whats happening with our team now, can we take this? Kuro cant be replaced in western dota; if someone could, it would be puppey.
      But now it's much more the gratefulness for taking us so far and for giving us the opportunity to live our dream.
      -> having a good sponsor, being in the top 6 eu and getting paid for the game we love so much. It's not his fault for leaving now, no one has the right to blame him for living his dream.
      With this navi lineup he has better chances to win the international, than with the mouz team. In Europe there is no one who could play position 3-5 better than funn1k, kuro and puppey.
      Dendi isn't at their level all the time, but he has incredible much experience and skill, also he has already played against the best mid players worldwide and owned them. Owned ig and lgd with rubick.
      XBOCT is compared to his teammates the worst, but that doesnt really matter since he's still really good. Ah by the way, navi pays about 3-5 times more money and money is required to play competetive dota and make yourself a living.

      "Its in the darkest times, we find ourselves growing"

      Now its up to us (the rest of mouz), what we want to do with this legacy. We could bury our heads in the sand, because of the truth, that no one can replace kuroky, or we could start to make the best out of it and give the best we can, to become as good as possible.
      I know it would make Kuroky proud, if we would stay together and fight. Kuroky taught us so much about dota, teamspirit and personal stuff, I now take it as my duty to continue.
      I owe him, because he was the one bringing me to mouz, despite the public opinion, because he trusted me. (I can remember, when nearly everyone on dotasource said, i'd be to bad and they should have gotten an other player) I owe myself, because I want to prove that a german team can have success without kuroky.
      A few moments ago I read the old post from kuroky (above) and found myself there. Its up to us. If we trust ourselfs and believe that we can do it and have the motivation and discipline to do the necessary, aka hard training and push each other, because in the beginning its gonna be pretty hard, because fata and i have to switch from "listen to kuro and play well" to "decide yourself what has to be done and when it has to be done".
      But fuck yes, I really want to pull it off and I really hope, that my teammates (also the new one(s)) want to do this aswell, so we can continue living our dream. To keep what's already accomplished. So that Kurokys work wasn't for nothing. So you (dotasource) wont get disappointed.
      So we can actually do even better, than what we already managed to do. To get to the international and don't play like ggnet at ti1 0:4. I just don't want to give up and play with random teams at 4pl cup or the defense qualification.
      And I dont want to be in the part of the german scene again which is throwing these chances away and out of laziness, stupidity or social incompetence, managing to be meaningless in competetive dota for over 6 years.

      I dont really know, why the only successfull german players are Kuroky and hanni.
      But when i see a semi-popular german player on the ti2 in the lowerbracket in a bo1, aka win or die, playing with a mouse only (and picking his nose with the other hand), because he doesn't like his team and doesn't want to win anymore, I'm thinking that this person with this stupid attitude still managed to get there is a confession of failure for the german dota scene and I really want to be better than this.

      "I know that what's in front of me is a reflection of what is inside of me"

      But however the future turns out, I decided not to give up, just because its harder now. Instead I'm focusing on the way that's ahead of us.
      That means getting better myself, to get top mechanics and drag along my teammates and hope they are sharing my dreams.
      Maybe we will fail and lose, but at least I want to try with everything weve got, and if I really fail I will stand up and try again, because at the moment I want to play dota. Because I don't want to see a german team in a few years, which managed to be successfull, because I didn't really try and was being a coward, instead of continuing. I don't want to be the guy whos sitting in teamspeak and wishing good luck to this team, just to talk behind their backs about them and want them to lose (hi kev-).

      So, here's the tl;dr version: Daarkside you were wrong. Kuroky, thanks for everything you have done for us, i hope with all my heart that you are successfull and we'll see us at the international. And if you win, I will be the first to congratulate you. At some point, we will be together again in a team and I will be bigger and better, than I am now.
      Dotasource, thanks for all the comments, for the small hype, your fanboyism and for every celebrating when we owned, and everytime being mad at us when we failed. I am reading the comments here after most of our games and im overwhelmed, how many there are and how big this whole thing got. Keep cheering for us, if you want to - cheer for kuroky, the text above explains why he has earned that. I will give my best not to disappoint you, even if the start is going to be hard, it's great and inspiring to know, that this forum exists and that there are people who feel with you when you win or lose. Thanks for all this from the whole team. Best forum eu, maybe even worldwide.


      joa hab auch paar sachen angepasst kleinigkeiten wie "best to not dissapoint you" zu best not to dissapoint you und kommata bla blub

    • Ach Kinder, irgendwie ist das doch alles ein versöhnliches Ende. Aber ein Ende, was in allererster Linie natürlich wieder ein neuer Anfang ist! :)
      Ich kann es auch einfach nicht sein lassen und muss auch noch mal extra sagen, wie geil Alex' Post ist. Als ob so ein lächerliches +1 das widerspiegelt.

      Außerdem möchte ich dazu kurz anreißen, wie cool diese Beziehung zwischen mouz und der Community hier war und ist. Ich glaube, dass die deutsche Szene sowieso eine der "kompliziertesten" ist. Hier kommt es einem so vor, als müsste jeder studieren, sonst würde er nichts erreichen (wobei: auch ein Studium gewährleistet gar nichts) und es ist sehr weit weg vom normalen Leben, was wir so kennen, sein Geld mit e-Sports zu verdienen. Das mag ein ganz einfacher Grund sein, warum es die deutschen DotA-Pros (leider Gottes) einfach noch nicht zu viel geschafft haben. Wie auch immer: zu der eher erfolglosen deutschen Proszene kommt dann auch noch die typische Mentalität des Deutschen: immer erstmal meckern, "früher war alles besser" (damals World Eaters ^^), es ist eh das besser, was man gerade nicht hat usw. Ganz ehrlich: ich finde, der Großteil der Deutschen hat diese Einstellung und ich HASSE sie, aber das soll nicht das Thema sein. Trotzdem: man hat hier oft genug gesehen, dass Liebe und Hass sehr nah beieinander liegen. Alleine schon, wie er selber sagte, als Alex zu mouz ging. Erstmal flamen à la "Als ob das klappt!" Ist nämlich deutlich einfacher, als vielleicht mal sowas zu sagen "Hey, vertraut den Jungs doch einfach, das kann sicher was werden." Weil dann kommt der nächste direkt mit 'nem Alex-Lowbob-Flame um cool zu sein und derjenige, der versucht hat, das positiv zu sehen, bekommt auf den Sack. Ja Dotasource.de, ihr seid überhaupt keine einfach Community. Ich bin lange genug dabei und habe neben vielen positiven Geschichten leider auch sehr oft irgendwelche negative Scheiße mitbekommen. Und trotz alledem hat mouz hier wirklich für einen Hype gesorgt, der schon fast außergewöhnlich war. Ich war immer kompletter CIS-Fanboy und war auch für diese Teams, wenn's gegen welche mit deutscher Beteiligung ging (shame on me), aber das "letzte" mouz hat einfach gefesselt. Man hatte endlich so etwas wie eine Nationalmannschaft (alleine schon weil ohne Kaasköppe Sing und Bombo), mit der man sich vielleicht auch ein Stück weit identifizieren konnte. Und dann kamen die phänomenalen Leistungen der letzten zwei Monate dazu, in denen mouz eigentlich jedes Top-Team schlagen konnte. Natürlich wurde es den Anhängern durch das durchaus bemerkenswert gut herausgearbeitete Throw-Vermögen nicht immer leicht gemacht, aber emotionaler wurde es dafür um so mehr. Wie ich hier mit Herzrasen nach dem "Finale" gegen Team Liquid saß... Da konnte man schon fast nicht mehr sauer sein, auch wenn's mouz selber verbockt hat. Dafür würde TL dann im nächsten Bo3 einfach mehr zerlegt - und die Freude war nach der Vorgeschichte umso größer. Und was zu dieser Zeit hier im Forum abging, war auch schon fast einzigartig. Manche haben ja sogar Vergleiche zu TI gezogen und ja, wenn auch in deutlich kleiner: es kam schon eine ähnliche Stimmung auf.
      Dass das Drama dann auch hier um so größer war, als die Geschichte mit Kuro zu Na`Vi begann, ist nur verständlich. Da war ja alles bei: wohlwollende Zukunftswünsche, gemischte Gefühle und absoluter Hass. :D Letzteres natürlich eher weniger. Ich war über die Reaktion hier sowieso sehr angenehm überrascht. Zwar waren viele im ersten Moment verständlicherweise schockiert, weil auch einfach unerwartet, haben dann aber sehr überlegt ihre Meinung geäußert. Denn: viele kennen Kuro. Und mit "kennen" meine ich jetzt nicht unbedingt persönlich, sondern einfach als (wie Alex sagte) die Gestalt der deutschen DotA-Proszene. Und damit kannte man seine Ambitionen. Dass so viele Posts voll mit Verständnis, Zustimmung und Glückwünschen waren, hat mich sehr beeindruckt. Aber: das hat sich Kuro über die Jahre auch erarbeiten müssen und im Endeffekt verdient. Dem sympathischen Kerl konnte nicht mal die berüchtigte Dotasource.de-Community böse sein. Und das will schon was heißen!
      Kurzum: Ich finde es toll, dass uns Alex diesen Post geschenkt hat. Sowas kann man auch einfach mal stecken lassen. Aber nein, wir bedeuten ihm eben was. Und genauso hat uns mouz etwas bedeutet. Und wenn die restlichen mouz-Jungs ihr Bestes geben und wir als Ds.de-Community nicht direkt wieder zu den typischen komplizierten Teenies ( :love: ) werden, dann wird dieses Verhältnis auch sicherlich anhalten können.
      In diesem Sinne wünsche ich Alex (genau wie Kuro natürlich), dass sie das Bestmögliche aus ihrer Situation machen und wünsche mir, dass Ds.de sie weiterhin so supportet, wie es in er letzten Zeit war!
      PEACE, LOVE & HARMONY!!! :love:

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      Sollte gar nicht so ein Text werden, aber das kam dann einfach so... ;)

    • Ich will mich zu dem ganzen Thema eigentlich gar nicht groß äußern... wurde ja alles bereits mehrfach gesagt.

      Aber mal davon abgesehen, dass Mouz gute Leistungen gezeigt hat (und hoffentlich auch weiterhn zeigt), ein rein deutsches Team ist, gibt es noch einen weiteren nennenswerten Faktor der für den "Hype" (zumindest hier auf Dotasource.de) um Mouz gesorgt hat.
      Und zwar meine ich Saga und natürlich auch rmN, die mit ihren Casts die ganze Sache erst so richtig ins Rollen gebracht haben. Ich hoffe doch sehr, dass Saga auch weiterhin versucht so viele Mouz Spiele zu casten wie es geht, um die weitere Entwicklung verfolgen zu können.

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      Seit langem hatten wir auch mal wieder einen Caster, der ein deutsches Team hypen konnte. Hut ab Saga. Ich hoffe, die Jungs finden schnell einen passenden fünften Mann und wir können sie weiter hypen.

      Übrigens, das muss einfach mal gesagt werden:


      Ganz viel <3<3 für euch, Dotasource! :love:

    • Schöner post juff, aufjedenfall. Vllt wäre noch anzufügen, dass einige user AUSSCHLIEßLICH mouz wegen dem hype geguckt haben und sonst die competetive scene eigtl garnicht verfolgen (ja, habe schon mit 2-3 leuten gesprochen, dieschalten nur den sagacast und mouz ein)

      Nur bei der reaktion am Anfang konnt ich viele User verstehen die meinten "das wird eh nichts" .. einfach weil es (no offense) schon soviele deutsche stacks gab, sei es mit kev, mit alex, mit rmN, ich denke man kann nen Spielerpool aus 15 deutschen spielern aufzählen die regelmäßig deutsche teams gemacht und kurz danach wieder aufgelöst haben.

      Nichts desto trotz ist es wirklich schön zu sehen dass mouz zsm bleibt und vllt mit dem gelernten auch weiterhin erfolg hat (fata hat mit wha ja gezeigt dass er durchaus auch gute ansagen machen kann). Auch wenn ich mir wünschen würde auch mal wieder ein taugliches team aus den reihen hexOr, EDE, neno und co. zu sehen so hoffe ich dass die freundschaft und vllt auch ein bischen das taschengeld von mouz die spieler motiviert am ball zu bleiben.
      you may clip our wings, but we will always remember what it was like to fly~