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    • David Dunning wird auf den Dunning-Kruger Effekt in Videospielen angesprochen
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      aui_2000 schrieb:

      Hey David, I'm a professional video game player in a game called Dota 2 and I am trying to start teaching people about the game. To give a little bit of background about the game if you've never heard of it, Dota 2 is a 5v5 game where mistakes from your team mates--as well as yourself--have the potential to heavily punish you and ultimately lose the game for your team.
      Dunning-Kruger is often cited very extensively in Dota2 as one of the reasons for why it is hard for people to improve at the game, as well as one of the reasons for poor team cohesion in pick up public games.
      My questions are:
      Has any research been done about the effect of Dunning-Kruger specifically in videos games?
      What is the best way to try to teach people to combat the Dunning-Kruger effect in their games? Are there ways to even turn Dunning-Kruger into an positive force for learning?
      How did you get top billing on the name Dunning-Kruger?
      edit: 4. Has any research been done about how people view themselves morally when they're veiled by anonymity (i.e. on the internet on game forums) relative to their moral standard in person?
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      Dr. Dunning schrieb:

      No explicit research on the DKE has been done in video games, although I have to admit I am interested. You ask about Dota 2, but note that the same issue comes up, with potentially severe consequences, in flight training of new pilots. Beginning pilots are appropriately scared of the task. But, after a little training, they become more experienced and dangerous because they haven’t confronted all the problems they might yet. So, how do you expose trainee pilots to DKE without putting their lives in danger?
      One notion is to let beginners know just how much better other pilots are performing. That clues them in that there’s a level of proficiency that they are not at yet. Then, one can give them clues about how to get there.
      Oh, and how did I get top billing in the naming of the effect? Dunno. It does show that Justin Kruger and I did not provide the name. We don’t know how it happened, we just know that our good family names will be associated with ignorance, incompetence, foolishness, and the like far after we leave this mortal coil.

      reddit.com/r/science/comments/…_dunning_a_social/cm1ckn6
      Nice Meme

    • konnten NOSS abwerben.
      Unter 100 Menschen liebe ich Einen, unter 100 Hunden 99...
      Knowing the difference between the easy way and the right way

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      Wir fliegen immer höher
      hier sind wir frei
      Wir sind bereit unsren Weg zu gehen
      hier oben kann uns nichts geschehn!!!
      Die Erde bebt denn unser Kampf ist noch nicht vorbei
      Doch unser Wunsch wird irgendwann in Erfüllung gehn

      Siehst du wie das Eis zerbricht
      kannst du das Feuer sehn?
      Wir müssen den Kampf bestehn
      Unsere Welt wird sonst irgendwann unter gehn

      Chala - Head - Chala
      Gib niemals auf ich weiß das Feuer brennt in dir
      bald hast du dein Ziel erreicht

      Chala - Head - Chala
      Öffne dein Herz du hast die Macht alles zu tun
      ich weiß du kannst es schaffen

      Chala - Head - Chala
      Spürst du die Kraft die tief in deiner Selle wohnt
      sie führt dich zu den Dragonballs

      Chala - Head - Chala
      Dein Traum wird irgendwann wahr doch der Weg
      ist noch so weieieieieeit


      And sometimes you have to go back,
      To know just where you have been
      But were old enough to know that
      What has been will be again (and again)

      And the bravest of faces are the ones where we fake it
      And the roles that we play

      Nothing matters when the pain is all but gone
      When you are finally awake
      Despite the overwhelming odds tomorrow came
      And when they see you crack a smile
      And you decide to stay awhile
      You'll be ready then to laugh again


    • fugo schrieb:

      David Dunning wird auf den Dunning-Kruger Effekt in Videospielen angesprochen
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      aui_2000 schrieb:

      Hey David, I'm a professional video game player in a game called Dota 2 and I am trying to start teaching people about the game. To give a little bit of background about the game if you've never heard of it, Dota 2 is a 5v5 game where mistakes from your team mates--as well as yourself--have the potential to heavily punish you and ultimately lose the game for your team.
      Dunning-Kruger is often cited very extensively in Dota2 as one of the reasons for why it is hard for people to improve at the game, as well as one of the reasons for poor team cohesion in pick up public games.
      My questions are:
      Has any research been done about the effect of Dunning-Kruger specifically in videos games?
      What is the best way to try to teach people to combat the Dunning-Kruger effect in their games? Are there ways to even turn Dunning-Kruger into an positive force for learning?
      How did you get top billing on the name Dunning-Kruger?
      edit: 4. Has any research been done about how people view themselves morally when they're veiled by anonymity (i.e. on the internet on game forums) relative to their moral standard in person?
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      Dr. Dunning schrieb:

      No explicit research on the DKE has been done in video games, although I have to admit I am interested. You ask about Dota 2, but note that the same issue comes up, with potentially severe consequences, in flight training of new pilots. Beginning pilots are appropriately scared of the task. But, after a little training, they become more experienced and dangerous because they haven’t confronted all the problems they might yet. So, how do you expose trainee pilots to DKE without putting their lives in danger?
      One notion is to let beginners know just how much better other pilots are performing. That clues them in that there’s a level of proficiency that they are not at yet. Then, one can give them clues about how to get there.
      Oh, and how did I get top billing in the naming of the effect? Dunno. It does show that Justin Kruger and I did not provide the name. We don’t know how it happened, we just know that our good family names will be associated with ignorance, incompetence, foolishness, and the like far after we leave this mortal coil.

      reddit.com/r/science/comments/…_dunning_a_social/cm1ckn6


      Wenn sich ein Trainer aufregt, weil der Weiner fehlerfrei seinen Job erledigte, statt seiner Mannschaft einen Gratissieg zu schenken, dann ist das ein Thema. Im Gegensatz dazu ist es ein anderes Thema, wenn sich jemand aufregt, wenn Rafati grundsätzlich bei (ethnischer) Europäer gegen nicht-Europäer zu ungunsten des Europäers entscheidet. Ich habe extra ein deutlicheres Beispiel als Hoyzer genommen.

      Der Dunning hat sich offensichtlich nicht in das MM-Thema eingearbeitet.

    • Bin kurz vorm Selbstmord.
      War vor einem Monat dem Ziel 5k sehr nahe, bin eine Woche oder so bei 4.9xx gewesen und ich habe seitdem ungefähr 90% meiner games verloren. Ich bin innerhalb von 3 Wochen auf 4500 gedroppt Tendenz fallend und bin nur am verzweifeln. Volvo plz.

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